Revenge or Rehabilitation?

This weeks post/episode takes a look at the always controversial topic of the justice system. With a massive prison population an a never ending war on drugs adding to the issue every day, soon 1 out of every 100 men in america will be in prison at some point in their life.

 

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Is prison to answer to all the crimes we use it for, does a white collar money launderer deserve to be in the same place as rapists and murderers

 

Does sating the need for revenge trump our social responsibility to people who quite often are a victim of circumstance?

 

Also on a related note Preston takes a shot at bad drivers who many think deserve prison as well. And Canadas new government sponsored nark app. 

Segregated Education

Most of us, hopefully, believe, everyone is born equal, but surely by the time they are 10 we know if they are idiots or not?

 

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It sounds harsh, it sounds very utilitarian, it sounds like a way to create a generation of emotionally crippled kids. But it seems to work. Listen Direct or on iTunes, the German education system seems harsh, but it really does work. Show 009 of Three Wise Guys.

 

I suppose I should explain this a little better first… Firstly, I’m originally from New Zealand, our education system is pretty similar to most of the western world, kids go to Kindergarder when they are 3 and 4 for a few hours a day, learn basic ABC’s 123’s, but mostly just developmental things, like playing and being social, leaving Kindergarder most kids can’t read or write or count past 10 unless their parents taught them individually. Then you have primary school from 5-12. There is no entry criteria for primary school, while it is expected most kids would know basic ABC’s and 123’s, they are still covered in the first year along with the foundations of reading and writing, each year getting progressively harder, by the time you leave, you should have decent literacy, Addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and the basics of algebra (More being aware of them more than being able to do them. Throw in some basic social sciences like history and geography and simmer. In primary school you have one teacher for the entire day who handles all the different classes. 

 

Some schools separate the last two years, when the child is 11-12, and have a intermediate school, kind of a practice highschool, but these are not terribly common. 

 

Then on to highschool, where for the first time, classes are taught by different teachers in different classrooms. You start having to do every class option for at least one term, then every year you get to drop those you dont want and pick up more specialized classes, for the first two years there is just basic, Math and Science, but after 15, they split into different disciplines like Statistics, Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, ect 

 

Then on to university or a trade school at 18 if they wish. 

 

This by in large, is similar to how most of the western world handles education, with slight differences in testing and what year certain things are done. 

 

The Germans couldnt be more different if they tried.

 

When I first came to Germany 3 years ago I thought their system brutal, harsh, liable to destroy any student thrust into it. But after seeing the system in action for 3 years, I think we should hold it up as the ideal.

 

They have kindergarden, but theirs runs to 6, and in the last year tends to be a little more proactive in real teaching. 

 

Primary School starts at 7 and goes to 10-11. Now by in large it is fairly similar to most of the west in what they teach and how it is taught.

 

Where the real difference comes in is the final year. At the end of the final year, the teacher evaluates the student, and recommend them what level of highschool to go to, yes they have different grades of school. Before I get into that, I will point out, it is only a recommendation, and while it would obviously be smart to follow it, many parents dont, forcing their children into a higher grade than they can handle, this system has been tweaked several times over the last few years, taking power away from teachers and giving it to parents, which sadly, while we would hope to be a good thing, has resulted in chaos as demanding parents push their children more than they can handle. 

 

For their equivalent of highschool, the German separate into three different levels, the bottom is called “Hop school” and is very basic level of education, focusing more on classes, such as design drawing, woodwork ect, also classes are more designed to be fun and interactive to keep the children amused and paying attention. Students placed here are not of high academic prowess, and usually end up in blue collar work or trade professions. This level finishes at 15, where they can then leave to the work force or get tested into the next rank, which is…

 

The middle rank is “Real School” which is pretty much the equivalent of what most of the western world does for highschool, maybe a bit easier or more focused on “interactive learning” than the standard western school. These schools finish at 16, and children who go to them often move on a work/learn system that is very popular in Germany, where you study for 10-15 hours a week at a school, and spend the rest of the time at on the job learning/working. Jobs such as secretarial work, admin, computer tech, offer are common from this grade. If a child wishes to they can test at the end of this school to continue to…

 

The final grade of school is Gymnasium, which doesn’t have a translation really. This runs all the way up to 17. While they do receive students who are graduated from the lower level schools, it is not terribly common, and they usually lose more through dropping out to the lower grades than they get from people moving up (Especially since parents have been able to over ride teacher recommendations). Gymnasium is a step above what most western schools are, and in the final few years, are more similar to university courses than standard high school. The students are lectured at and are expected to motivate themselves. While a teacher is able to help, learning is self disciplined by in large. I would place most students who graduation from Gymnasium at or above many 1st or 2nd year university students from other nations.

 

At the face of it this system seems really hardcore, judging a 11 year old, guiding their future life plans from such a young age? It is harsh. But it has been shown to work time and time again. My highschool which took everyone had very smart kids, and real trouble makers, and thank God those kids dropped out at 15 (as soon as they are allowed to in NZ) because the rest of us could focus more.

 

How much better would your school have been if the kids who didnt want to learn werent there, and most of the students where at your grade of learning?

 

If you hated highschool because it was hard or not your thing, would you not have preferred a school tailored to teach you life skills and fun interactive learning?

 

The system at this moment has been broken a bit by the Green Government who took the power to place students away from teachers who knew the academic prowess of their students, to the parents, who by in large, force their children into high levels than they can handle, causing massive drop outs from the top level and lower learning standards for everyone involved. While the idea of parents having a say sounds right on the surface, teachers in Germany study for years in this system, parents are quite often blind to what is really in their childs best interests. In the old system, if a parent really didnt agree with the decision of the teacher, they could request a meeting or outside testing, but it was rare, as most had been through the system their selves and knew it worked.

 

I originally though that by placing a child in the mid level school you had decided their fate for ever and denied them access to university (as only students from gymnasium are granted university access), but they always have the option of being tested up if they wish. But most are happy to be placed into any level of school.

 

There is no real stigma about being in the “Dumb” school, as they are often more than happy to be in that level of school and move onto trade jobs, they never wanted a more academic path.

 

Considering the problem New Zealand and many western nations are facing with to many university graduates and not enough people in the trades, maybe a system tailored to the skills of the students is best.

 

Granted it took me years to get used to the system, and to this day, something about it still seems harsh. But with all the options given, and the results that speak for them selves. I cant honestly find a good reason not to support this system of schooling. 

 

I give a much more detailed description on the levels of schooling in the show here, or listen to iTunes with all the episodes, this is show 009, with questions from Preston and Aaron about the problems many in the west think the system has. At the least it is something to ponder. 

Whats the Use:- Twitter, Facebook, Blog

This is essentially a part two of this post, where you, our loyal readers and listeners, let forth a avalanche of rage and hatred at social media, primarily Twitter, but old favorites like Facebook  did not escape your wrath.

 

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What seemed to be a underlying theme from everyone’s feedback, was that twitter had no purpose.

 

To contrast them I’m going to show the typical use of each media, or at least how most people try to use them before being driven into a psychotic rage. 

 

Most people, us included use their personal Facebook, to keep in touch with friends and family, some people use it a bit much and spam everyone with Farmville news, but Facebook, actually does have some rather useful features for ignoring someones posts with out offending them by unfriending them. I seem to use this feature for all my relations under 18 you just spam useless updates or photos that were emailed around a decade ago. I personally refuse to use my personal page to promote projects I personally, or Three Wise Guys as a group work on.

 

That is what, Facebook group pages are for. It has a nice interface, it allows people to follow or not follow as they choose with out offending the individuals involved. The posts can be long, well written, have the ability for feedback that is easily visible to everyone. We personally use Facebook as the first place to launch new shows and features, not because the audience is biggest, infact our Facebook page has less followers than the other sites we have, but because it is so user friendly

 

Blogs. well funnily enough, everyone seemed to like blogs, strange for a blogging site… But personally I dont just think that is a selection bias. It allows you to compose your thoughts in a wide variety or formats, it is personalised, and it allows you to connect with people of similar interests and best of all, exchange ideas in a open forum.

 

A media that is not much used, although it popularity is growing so fast iTunes is dedicating larger and larger portions of its makeup to it, is Podcasts. Although by far the most labour intensive of all the options, for us it is the most fun and gratifying. I creates a open and honest dialog, we can receive feedback from people with a huge range of backgrounds, and even do live interviews allowing people a wide audience that they otherwise might not get. This option is obviously not for everyone in terms of production, but in terms of consumption of ideas and the possibility of a wide audience for feedback and thoughts, nothing comes close.

 

The form of media that received almost universal hatred, was Twitter, not a single person out of the dozens that replied to our last post and our show on it, had a single nice thing to say about it. People are either forced to use it by PR and human resources for their firm, or just link it directly to their blog or show. With very limited freedom for what you can say, the butchering of language to fit with in an arbitrary limit, and the utter, utter, utter spam that spews forth from it. Twitter is full of businesses trying to be savy, but coming off sad, narcissistic celebrities who are leaving it in droves after being flooded with hate from the trolls that infest it. For us, our twitter audience is of a decent size, but we just use it to link to the show or our blog, as the character limit does not allow for anything else. Consider people usually just subscribe to the show, its not even really needed. If we all stop using twitter tomorrow, would anyone care? would it matter? does anyone get any use of it? Apparently not.

 

In summation:-

Blog yay

Facebook, a reserved yay if used right

Podcasting, a tired yay after much work

Twitter, Booooooooooo

 

-Ben

Genetically modified ME!

Being from New Zealand, where clean and green is almost a religion, I had been well and truly indoctrinated against Genetic Modified foods and animals, and well… everything.

But I also had a science teacher in high school who while not pro or con Genetically Modified foods, he was VERY in favor of his students knowing about them, above and beyond the propaganda from both sides. He was, with out a doubt, the biggest influence on my life outside of my immediate family. I think a lot of people have that one teacher that effects them on a deeper level than others, that help shape your view of the world.

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He refused to give his opinion on GE foods, although I always was under the impression he was in favor of them in general. Although his motto for life was everything in moderation.

When we covered this topic here on our show, I said I was fully in favor of them, and we got some interesting feed back. The stance taken by most of the people who dont like them, was that they damage diversity in our food supply, put us at risk of blights and famines, and that we dont know the long term effects, points that were covered by Preston and Aaron in the show, who while pro GE, are not as willing as I am to surrender to the coming GE invasion.

The main point I want to cover now is the idea that a lot of GE crops are designed not to breed naturally, so called terminator genes are put in them so that farmers have to keep on buying them from the supplier rather than propagate them their selves.

Now I think terminator genes are good for two reason, first, it stops cross pollination with non GE crops, which I agree, is a big issue and shouldnt be accepted, just because I support GE doesnt mean everyone should have to put up with it.

The other reason is that it does protect the companies that do the, usually, very expensive research into these new breeds of crops, if they could only sell it over one growing season, they would not get the financial reward for their research.

This must be off set though, by having alternatives to their crops, if they supply the only strains of a certain plant, then it becomes unacceptable, as they would have a monopoly.

So long as we can protect the non GE strains, and so long as the dont pollute the natural plant lines. I think GE crops have done the world a lot of good, increasing crop yield across the board and providing drought and flood resistant strains of crops to areas with less fertile land.

As my old teacher would say, everything in moderation.

Now the case for GE in humans is another topic we covered here and I will respond to the feed back we got latter.

Three Wise Guys 017

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Topic: Psuedo Science and Same Sex civil rights

 

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Soapbox, Florida Court Case on same sex couple

 

Hosts: Aaron, Preston, Ben

 

Summery, A look at some of the many forms of psuedo scince passing off as real medicine and science in our community, the harm they can do if taken seriously and the costs, both financial and ethical, of letting them continue.

 

Also a look at following the spirit of the law, rather than the letter.

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 Space Colonies…

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Topic: Space colonies and the future of manned space

 

Soapbox: Tea Party

 

Hosts: Aaron, Preston, Ben

 

Summery: A look at the future of manned space flight and our presence in space above and beyond the international space station. Also a look at the new trip to Mars run by reality TV. Is a manned mission just beyond us, economically, for the foreseeable future, are we doomed to one planet so long as people keep crying “Wont somebody please think of the children?!?!”

 

Soap Box is looking at the high jacking of the tea party by the far right. How it started, and where it is heading and what their politics might mean for all of us.

 

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Topic: Designer Babies

 

Soapbox: The Liberator Pistol

 

Hosts: Aaron, Preston, Ben

 

A look at the up coming ethical problem of designer babies and where the line may need to be drawn to seperate the levels of genetic engineering we will be facing in the coming decades.

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Topic: GMO, Genetically modified foods past, present and future

 

Soap Box: Oblivion review

 

This weeks episode takes a look at Genetically modified food stuffs in our societies, its pros and cons and societies opinion of it.

 

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Topic: CGI in movies and personal identity right. This week we look at the fate of CGI and what may happen when realistic CGI becomes widely available. Will we start seeing dead actors ataring again? Will we see celebrities cast in roles they wouldnt want? 

 

Soapbox: Why Aaron and Preston support gun ownership.